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we have had 1.422, 1.29 and on the way to another trillion dollars deficit for these years. what the president is proposing is not pragmatic whatsoever and really is a reflection of him i suppose living in a fantasy world. >> what do you think the deal that speaker boehner offered the president? >> well, i was against the plan b because i don't see this as being a tax revenue increase issue. most important is spending. we could georgia back -- go back to the simpson bowles commission. the most important thing, we have to deal with spending. we live in an america where the federal government now is spending 25% of our gross domestic product. when you study the obama budget that would increase to 32%. that's where the problem has to i am emanate from. the spending side of our budget is 62% of what we spend money on. it's not just about defense or discretionary. >> is there any indication the president's deal, that he may come back with, will address spending? i haven't heard substantial spending cuts out of any deals on the left. >> absolutely you are not hearing that whatsoev
we have had 1.422, 1.29 and on the way to another trillion dollars deficit for these years. what the president is proposing is not pragmatic whatsoever and really is a reflection of him i suppose living in a fantasy world. >> what do you think the deal that speaker boehner offered the president? >> well, i was against the plan b because i don't see this as being a tax revenue increase issue. most important is spending. we could georgia back -- go back to the simpson bowles...
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republican mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on wealthiest should go up a little bit sweas well as a deficit reduction package. if they can't say yes to good offers i have an obligation to make sure the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> republicans are expressing frustration saying the president is trying to put the blame on them for going off the cliff but when senator mcconnell was brought a few days ago mcconnell's office says he got a call from senator reed or democrats to talk about the fiscal cliff in about a month. they feel like they have not gone the extra pile here. >> the vice president getting a call today. what do they make of all of that? >> that could be a big deal. it shows the white house push back they are going to say look he has been pulling out all of the stops with the vice president in delaware came to the white house today working the phones we are told they had multiple conversations with senator mcconnell. a year and a half ago they talked about raising the debt ceiling it was joe biden a lot of years working
republican mcconnell to accept the fact taxes on wealthiest should go up a little bit sweas well as a deficit reduction package. if they can't say yes to good offers i have an obligation to make sure the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> republicans are expressing frustration saying the president is trying to put the blame on them for going off the cliff but when senator mcconnell was brought a few days ago mcconnell's office says...
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having said that, it has become part of our deficit negotiation. i'm troubled by the notion that we're somehow going to give a tax break to some 6,000 very fortunate americans and incur a new expense for our federal government of some $130 billion or $140 billion in the process. what are we thinking? at a time whaoef to try to -- we have to try to bring together the resources to reduce our deficit, why would we want to give a new bonus break for the wealthiest people in this country when it comes to the estate tax. at that to me would be a step backwards. i hope we are not forced into any agreement that includes it, although i stand here knowing full well that if there is an ultimate compromise there will be parts of it i find disgusting and reprehensible which i may have to swallow in the name of following a compromise to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is the nature of a compromise. i hope that one isn't included but it may be. we have to do things important for this economy and one of the most important is to make sure we extend unemployment benefi
having said that, it has become part of our deficit negotiation. i'm troubled by the notion that we're somehow going to give a tax break to some 6,000 very fortunate americans and incur a new expense for our federal government of some $130 billion or $140 billion in the process. what are we thinking? at a time whaoef to try to -- we have to try to bring together the resources to reduce our deficit, why would we want to give a new bonus break for the wealthiest people in this country when it...
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it ought to be about reducing the deficit and debt. they're suggesting we want new taxes, higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> republicans continue saying they're waiting for harry reid to make a counter offer. >> they're not making that tonight. he's told us that's not going to happen it but they're working on it. a sounds like a change of entitlement programs is irritating them. >> republicans created way of calculating inflation to lower payments to recipients of social security. the senate majority leader offered this update a short time ago. >>> i was really gratified to hear republicans took their dammed for social security benefit cuts off the table. they should never have been on the table. there's still significant distance between the sides but negotiations continue. there's still time left and we intend to continue negotiations. >> senator mitch mcconnell says there was no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. all that's is needed he says is a willingness, interest, or courage
it ought to be about reducing the deficit and debt. they're suggesting we want new taxes, higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> republicans continue saying they're waiting for harry reid to make a counter offer. >> they're not making that tonight. he's told us that's not going to happen it but they're working on it. a sounds like a change of entitlement programs is irritating them. >> republicans created way of calculating inflation to lower...
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we have a trillion dollars in deficit spending last four years. president says let's go back to the clinton levels of taxation. if we went back to the clinton levels of taxation we're still double the highest bush era of deficit spending still because spending was accelerated so much in 2009 and 2010. we're trying to bring the spending levels back down. on the contrary if we just brought the spending levels down to the clinton level spending instead of tax level going up to clinton level of tax it is would solve this. we're trying to solve the debt and deficit. we're trying to say how do we get out of debt. the president is saying let's get past the fiscal cliff and let's keep moving on. that doesn't solve the problem. what solves the problem is reducing spending and get our spending back down so our nation is back in balance again. jon: is it mostly medicare and perhaps social security that are the drivers of the problem in your view? >> it is everything that's on the table. when you look at our discretionary spending, how much that was accelerat
we have a trillion dollars in deficit spending last four years. president says let's go back to the clinton levels of taxation. if we went back to the clinton levels of taxation we're still double the highest bush era of deficit spending still because spending was accelerated so much in 2009 and 2010. we're trying to bring the spending levels back down. on the contrary if we just brought the spending levels down to the clinton level spending instead of tax level going up to clinton level of tax...
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that's a good start, but we're not going to get out of this deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board. >> bill: now, governor dean sympathizes with the socialist philosophy and that's where the country is heading. taking from those who are productive and giving to those who are struggling. or who are working for the massive government apparatus. during this christmas season, i think we all should emulate officer deprimo, we should try to help those in need, but that help may be futile, if the government doesn't wise up and stop the incredible entitlement spending, america's economy will eventually collapse. president obama needs to invite jeffrey hillman to the white house. he needs to talk the man with no shoes. he needs to see what is actually happening in this country. got to get real about government spending. now, the top story tonight, this is incredible, the pennsylvania department of public welfare says that a single mother with two children is better off taking a job that pays $29,000 a year than a job that pays $69,000 a year. why? cost of entitlements. joining us
that's a good start, but we're not going to get out of this deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board. >> bill: now, governor dean sympathizes with the socialist philosophy and that's where the country is heading. taking from those who are productive and giving to those who are struggling. or who are working for the massive government apparatus. during this christmas season, i think we all should emulate officer deprimo, we should try to help those in need, but that help may...
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the deficit has been improving. the federal deficit has improved over the last couple quarters. >> so is it the case that perhaps because the economy has done better that perhaps that would save us from a credit rating downgrade even if we go over the cliff? >> i don't expect another downgrade from the other rating firms. the next step would be putting it on negative watch. all three major credit rating firms have a negative outlook. the next step is a negative watch and then a downgrade. we don't expect that to happen. especially if the debt ceiling is raised, which is likely, not many people have been speaking about it, but that's likely to come out over the next couple of weeks. then there's the entitlement reform, which probably is more importantly actually than the deficit talks. >> so in terms of entitlement reform, if we have a mini deal, so to speak, where certain tax rates are maintained for the middle class, let's say, but the amount of time in which entitlement reform can be worked out is an extended time
the deficit has been improving. the federal deficit has improved over the last couple quarters. >> so is it the case that perhaps because the economy has done better that perhaps that would save us from a credit rating downgrade even if we go over the cliff? >> i don't expect another downgrade from the other rating firms. the next step would be putting it on negative watch. all three major credit rating firms have a negative outlook. the next step is a negative watch and then a...
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if, we have to do four things if we want to reduce the deficit. we have to get more revenue, we have to cut domestic spending, we have to trim and reform the health care programs in particular of medicare and medicaid and we have to cut defense. if we do all four of those things we can make significant down payment getting deficit under control. if we do some of them, the numbers are not there enough to make as much progress as we want. this is where mark and i agree. over next six to nine months we could see substantial progress towards smart fiscal policy in the country if the two parties come together. heather: we'll see what happens. thank you both very much for joining us until monday night. thank you. >> merry christmas. happy new year. [heavy breathing]. gregg: boy, remember that, video from april of 2011. monster tornado tearing through tuscaloosa, alabama, devastating the community and alberta baptist church. ever since then the church's pastor has been fighting insurers and fema and the city to try to rebuild. this month, finally some mo
if, we have to do four things if we want to reduce the deficit. we have to get more revenue, we have to cut domestic spending, we have to trim and reform the health care programs in particular of medicare and medicaid and we have to cut defense. if we do all four of those things we can make significant down payment getting deficit under control. if we do some of them, the numbers are not there enough to make as much progress as we want. this is where mark and i agree. over next six to nine...
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the president in addressing a deficit added $1.6 trillion in new spending. gregg: yeah. >> so who are we joking right now? the president has never taken the spending side of this equation seriously, which is why we don't have a deal. republicans have put their necks on the line supporting new revenues, the president's not coming through. gregg: senator barrasso said the president does want to go over the cliff, because he wants to punish republicans. is there something to that? >> i don't think there's anything to that, but the reality is that if he wants to get anything done, he has two options. he either breaks the republicans on taxes, or he breaks the republicans. i read that somewhere, and i thought it was a fantastic quote. but i do think that he is going -- i don't think any of us want to see the country go off the cliff. gregg: maybe he just didn't think $16 trillion in debt is a big deal, basil? >> i think he thinks it's a big deal if we go off this cliff. we're talking about two million folks that will not get unemployment anymore, i don't think an
the president in addressing a deficit added $1.6 trillion in new spending. gregg: yeah. >> so who are we joking right now? the president has never taken the spending side of this equation seriously, which is why we don't have a deal. republicans have put their necks on the line supporting new revenues, the president's not coming through. gregg: senator barrasso said the president does want to go over the cliff, because he wants to punish republicans. is there something to that? >> i...
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dropping being squeezed every year by my conservative friends on the other side of the aisle, with deficits remaining high, every dollar of sacrifice that the wealthy forego is sacrifice that we will later be asking of real middle-class, modest-income americans. every dollar that the top 2% of taxpayers do not pay under this deal, we will eventually ask folks of modest means to foreg forego -- to forego in social security or medicare or medicaid or head start benefits or other items that benefit the real middle class. i believe it is gravely shortsighted to look at these issues in isolation from each other, especially since the republicans have made crystal clear they intend to seek mandatory spending cuts just two months from now using the debt limit as leverage. so number three, why in this deal do we make the tax benefits for the rich permanent while the progressive tax benefits we put in place in 2009 to help people of modest means, why are those temporary? for example, the estate taxes that benefit the wealthiest are made permanent. the earned income tax credit that affects the lower i
dropping being squeezed every year by my conservative friends on the other side of the aisle, with deficits remaining high, every dollar of sacrifice that the wealthy forego is sacrifice that we will later be asking of real middle-class, modest-income americans. every dollar that the top 2% of taxpayers do not pay under this deal, we will eventually ask folks of modest means to foreg forego -- to forego in social security or medicare or medicaid or head start benefits or other items that...
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but, if you're a deficit hawk, you might be happy with this news. the congressional budget office estimates that with all of these new tax revenues, plus those mandatory spending cuts kicking in january 1st, that would all cut the deficit in half next year to about $600 billion. kelly? kelly: we would go through this for about half a year. then there's a talk among some people, that we would actually rebound at the end of six months or so. but that is a lot of pain to go through. is there any idea of what could happen to the economy or stock market as a result of congressional inactivity? >> well, yeah. the cb. off and many private economists say that the $600 billion in fiscal tighting, as you say would push the economy into recession next year and send the unemmoment rate to back above 9%. a survey of investment managers found 60% of the them see a drop in the dow industrials of 10% or more if the cliff is not avoided. kelly? kelly: boy, that is very ominous. peter, thank you. hopefully something can be done. peter barnes. jamie: another extreme w
but, if you're a deficit hawk, you might be happy with this news. the congressional budget office estimates that with all of these new tax revenues, plus those mandatory spending cuts kicking in january 1st, that would all cut the deficit in half next year to about $600 billion. kelly? kelly: we would go through this for about half a year. then there's a talk among some people, that we would actually rebound at the end of six months or so. but that is a lot of pain to go through. is there any...
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the same is true for any future deficit agreement. we will have to do more to reduce our debt and deficit. i am willing to do more but it will have to be balanced. we will have to do it in a responsible way. i am willing to reduce our government's medicare bills by finding new ways to reduce the costs of health care in this country. that is something which all agree on. we want to make sure that medicare is there for future generations but the current trajectory of health care costs is going up so high that we have to find ways to make sure that it is sustainable. that kind of reform has to go hand in hand with doing some more work to reform our tax code so that wealthy individuals, the biggest corporations, cannot take advantage of loopholes and deductions that are not available to most of the folks standing up here for most americans. there is still more work to be done in the tax code to make it fair even as we are also looking at how we can strengthen something like medicare. if republicans think i will finish the job of the defic
the same is true for any future deficit agreement. we will have to do more to reduce our debt and deficit. i am willing to do more but it will have to be balanced. we will have to do it in a responsible way. i am willing to reduce our government's medicare bills by finding new ways to reduce the costs of health care in this country. that is something which all agree on. we want to make sure that medicare is there for future generations but the current trajectory of health care costs is going up...
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however, in this case, there was no focal deficit. the person was normal except foc headache or other manifestations that we don't know, but the fact that you're doing well, it looks like all you need to do is be given blood thinner. she should be completely normal. >> and but here's the question, the concern i had. this is her second blood clot, o couple yearsod ago, she suffered one in her leg.eg the fact that it's happened again, is there, should there bd more of a concern now? >> well, the previous blood clot was in the oleg, and those are - they only go to the lungs, they don't go to the brain, but thet treatment is the same. the you do give the same anti coagulants. so in this case, this is the first time she had it in the head, and basically, probably was ala variety of factors, the trauma, the dehydration, infection. i think that the anti coagulation, i think there's a chance she can completely recover. >> can blood clots be prevented? >> to an extent, by hydration, making sure there's no inflammatory component, so streeting i
however, in this case, there was no focal deficit. the person was normal except foc headache or other manifestations that we don't know, but the fact that you're doing well, it looks like all you need to do is be given blood thinner. she should be completely normal. >> and but here's the question, the concern i had. this is her second blood clot, o couple yearsod ago, she suffered one in her leg.eg the fact that it's happened again, is there, should there bd more of a concern now?...
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. >> juliet: his thing is, look, we got to start cutting this deficit down. we just got to start now. he said, i stand to lose a lot of money in this, but it's got to happen now. >> dave: he also said republicans should lead on immigration, which i thought was interesting. that also made my eyes go up. >> clayton: he said they're going to continue to lose election after election if they continue to do what they did as it relates to immigration reform. the senate this morning, look at the live look, capitol hill and the white house. the senate reconvenes at 11:00 a.m. this morning. the house is getting together around 9:00 a.m. this morning. again, wendell goler reporting they've been hashing out deals throughout the night. >> dave: if you want good information as it happens, follow chad pergrum on twitter. he works harder than just about anybody in politics. he tweet constantly what's happening on the floor. >> juliet: let's get to some other headlines. fiscal cliff concerns also causing major uncertainty on wall street. investors are bracing for a volatile f
. >> juliet: his thing is, look, we got to start cutting this deficit down. we just got to start now. he said, i stand to lose a lot of money in this, but it's got to happen now. >> dave: he also said republicans should lead on immigration, which i thought was interesting. that also made my eyes go up. >> clayton: he said they're going to continue to lose election after election if they continue to do what they did as it relates to immigration reform. the senate this morning,...
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our deficit this year alone is likely to be about $1.3 trillion. this would reduce it down to $1.24 trillion. with the $60 billion of new revenue that it gains. most importantly it sets up three more fiscal cliffs over the next three months. when appropriation spending expires on march 27, when the debt ceiling has to be increased at the end of february, and when the sequester has to be dealt with at the very same time. so all we have done is to stumble forward and to an even less predictable situation with far fewer resources to invest in our nation and our children's future. thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from missouri seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from missouri is recognized for one minute. mr. cleaver: thank you, mr. speaker. i don't particularly like the bill that's going to come to the floor. i'm going to vote for it. the reason is that i stumbling through on
our deficit this year alone is likely to be about $1.3 trillion. this would reduce it down to $1.24 trillion. with the $60 billion of new revenue that it gains. most importantly it sets up three more fiscal cliffs over the next three months. when appropriation spending expires on march 27, when the debt ceiling has to be increased at the end of february, and when the sequester has to be dealt with at the very same time. so all we have done is to stumble forward and to an even less predictable...
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and really, is not interested in a balanced approach to deficit reduction. it's been pretty clear that that's the story we have been telling and it happens to be the truth. >> i understand that two of colleagues proposed cuts to medicare for a hike in the debt ceiling. what do you make of that offer? >> i think one of the things that people don't realize is that it's a dirty little secret. the republicans don't want to cut the things that americans want cut. and they want to cut things that americans don't want cut. poll after poll shown americans do not want deficit reduction done by cutting medicare and medicare and social security. so they propose and saw the same scenario when paul ryan put the budget out and because the american people rejected the kind of draconian cuts that the republicans want to make so, you know, that's a nonstarter in the senate. i think it's a nonstarter with the president. sure can pass the house but going nowhere past that. >> the smaller offer we hear that the president is making at 3:00, to congressional leadership, what kind
and really, is not interested in a balanced approach to deficit reduction. it's been pretty clear that that's the story we have been telling and it happens to be the truth. >> i understand that two of colleagues proposed cuts to medicare for a hike in the debt ceiling. what do you make of that offer? >> i think one of the things that people don't realize is that it's a dirty little secret. the republicans don't want to cut the things that americans want cut. and they want to cut...
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the president suggested lawmakers take action on deficit reduction in the next few months and that more tax revenue could be involved in those discussions. but republicans are furious at that possibility. >> i'm willing to support revenue to deal with this problem. the overall problem. but what i will not agree to is using revenue to replace spending reductions. >> reporter: even if the senate frawfs deal by midnight the house still has to pass the measure before the president can sign into it law. randall pinkston, cbs news, washington. >> even if it takes a few days to finish lawmakers say the cuts will be made retroactively but for federal employees they could go to work on wednesday not knowing if they will be sent home. if those automatic spending cuts kick in, there might not be enough money to run their agencies. kristen. >> reporter: the words that i keep hearing over and over are us from straight and confused. people are very frustrated with all this uncertainty, congress, and even the phrase fiscal cliff. at the same time people are confused and very concerned about what going
the president suggested lawmakers take action on deficit reduction in the next few months and that more tax revenue could be involved in those discussions. but republicans are furious at that possibility. >> i'm willing to support revenue to deal with this problem. the overall problem. but what i will not agree to is using revenue to replace spending reductions. >> reporter: even if the senate frawfs deal by midnight the house still has to pass the measure before the president can...
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as a former governor, we don't operate with big deficits. you can't do that and we're in trouble in this country financially. the long term and in the short term, yes, we'll have a recession. it won't be a bad one but it will be one and nobody wants a recession. in the long term i think wall street goes crazy and you will see 15,000, 17,000 in the dow because finally somebody has done something serious about the deficit. i don't believe they will if they come to an agreement. >> you know, governor rendell, i want to know if you agree with governor dean. part of the message, one of the things that strikes me, the message for so long has been we can't go over the cliff, we can't go over the cliff. here are all the things that will happen to individual americans if we go over the cliff. there's a lot of anxiety out there. we've been hearing about that, we've seen the markets up and down. to some degree, i understand the political arguments but in terms of the argument of the stability of the country and our economy, do you agree with governor d
as a former governor, we don't operate with big deficits. you can't do that and we're in trouble in this country financially. the long term and in the short term, yes, we'll have a recession. it won't be a bad one but it will be one and nobody wants a recession. in the long term i think wall street goes crazy and you will see 15,000, 17,000 in the dow because finally somebody has done something serious about the deficit. i don't believe they will if they come to an agreement. >> you know,...
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the tax would go as the deficit went up. if we go down as the deficit went down. i think the imports -- i think they started this problem, and the need to, you know, revitalizes through this. let me give you one example. although sun. a utozone. they used to only sell american- made parts. now it is all chinese. they have taken over by autozone. host: thank you. our listeners can hear more on c-span radio. we just heard from senator mcconnell. he says that they are very close to a deal. the sequestration issue will be dealt with in the coming weeks and months. robert is turning us from canton, ohio. democrats lined. caller: hello. one thing about the social security and stuff, that should be like a savings account. nobody should be able to get for any debt. that should be what we work for for our future. they should have to ask us if they want to use the us -- use that to pay debt. as for the taxes, the need to get their heads together and work together, and if they do not want to work together, we need to vote them out and get someone in there who will work hand-
the tax would go as the deficit went up. if we go down as the deficit went down. i think the imports -- i think they started this problem, and the need to, you know, revitalizes through this. let me give you one example. although sun. a utozone. they used to only sell american- made parts. now it is all chinese. they have taken over by autozone. host: thank you. our listeners can hear more on c-span radio. we just heard from senator mcconnell. he says that they are very close to a deal. the...
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and kicked the can down the road and only talking about taxes which will do nothing to decrease the deficit. >> juliet: thank you for joining us and waking up at the bright and early hour of 6:10 a.m. >> clayton: thanks, curtis. let's check with maria molina, another snowstorm in ohio and east and some places in southern new england got up to a foot of snow. >> dave: and drivers be warned, five people hurt in new hampshire after a 20-car pileup and some airports saw slays and a plane taken off in sheing slid off the runway, and stuck in a snow bank, 6 6 on board. no one was hurt. >> juliet: for more on the conditions as mr. clayton morris said, maria molina. i was saddened not to see a white new years, pre-new years. >> we didn't see it accumulate in new york, in manhattan. outside, hoboken saw snow on the cars, but not on the ground or the streets, but place ins connecticut and massachusetts actually saw close to a foot of snow. i even sawmill ford, massachusetts over a foot of snow and some people did get lucky and needed snow across portions of we haven't is that much snow so far this wi
and kicked the can down the road and only talking about taxes which will do nothing to decrease the deficit. >> juliet: thank you for joining us and waking up at the bright and early hour of 6:10 a.m. >> clayton: thanks, curtis. let's check with maria molina, another snowstorm in ohio and east and some places in southern new england got up to a foot of snow. >> dave: and drivers be warned, five people hurt in new hampshire after a 20-car pileup and some airports saw slays and...
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more stimulus, $50 billion in additional government spending, which would only add to the debt and deficit. what impact does that have? >> i think that have essentially no impact. the u.s. has been growing since june of 2009. this is not a case where the government needs to step in and stop a free fall. the problem is we're growing too slowly. we are growing at rates that are 1, 1.5, 2%, and we should be growing at rates of 3 and 4%. to do that we need permanent fixes. fixes to entitlement programs, tax reform, that's the recipe for more rapid growth. it's also the same recipe for fixing the debt. gregg: how about 7 and 8% growth which is what happened this ronald reagan reduced the tabgts rates. the tax rates. >> that would be phenomenal. we haven't seen that since the 1980s. it will take a very big pla change in the playbook in washington for that to happen h. gregg: thank you very much. >> thank you. gregg: what will it cost you if washington can't make a deal before next week, something that is looking more and more likely? you can find out all you need to know on our website foxnews.c
more stimulus, $50 billion in additional government spending, which would only add to the debt and deficit. what impact does that have? >> i think that have essentially no impact. the u.s. has been growing since june of 2009. this is not a case where the government needs to step in and stop a free fall. the problem is we're growing too slowly. we are growing at rates that are 1, 1.5, 2%, and we should be growing at rates of 3 and 4%. to do that we need permanent fixes. fixes to...
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extending tax cuts while doing nothing to curb spending or address the long-term deficit crisis. if they fail to pass a mini-deal, virtually everyone's income taxes will go up. even if the income taxes are extended virtually all workers are due to see less in their paychecks, starting in january, where the temporary 2% payroll tax cut is set to expire. don't assume there will be a mini-deal, a source close to the meetings going on tonight, the prospects are quote not too promising they'll get to a bipartisan agreement to prevent everyone's taxes from going up. david? >> our chief white house correspondent jon karl. of course, this waiting game is already affecting americans' 401(k)s. the stock market, five straight losses. let's bring in bianna golodryga. if these lawmakers thought that waiting to the 11th hour wouldn't have an effect, look no further than the stock market. >> take a look at what happened just the few days. the dow lost 158 points. for the week, down 252 points. david, it's real money. the average 401(k) lost $3,000, $4,000. december is traditionally a good month
extending tax cuts while doing nothing to curb spending or address the long-term deficit crisis. if they fail to pass a mini-deal, virtually everyone's income taxes will go up. even if the income taxes are extended virtually all workers are due to see less in their paychecks, starting in january, where the temporary 2% payroll tax cut is set to expire. don't assume there will be a mini-deal, a source close to the meetings going on tonight, the prospects are quote not too promising they'll get...
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extending tax cuts while doing nothing to curb spending or address the long-term deficit crisis. if they fail to pass a mini-deal, almost everyone's income taxes will go up. even if the income taxes are extended virtually all workers are due to see less in their paycheck as the temporary tax increase is set to inspire. the prospects are quote not too promising they'll get to a bipartisan agreement to prevent everyone's taxes from going up. david? >> our chief white house correspondent jon karl. this waiting game is already affecting americans' 401 cans. the stock market, five straight losses. let's bring in bianna golodryga. >> take a look at what happened just the few days. the dow lost 158 points. for the week, down 252 points. david, it's real money. lost 3,000, $4,000. december is traditionally a good month for the markets. >> and for home sales. here's what the president had to say about that. >> america wonder why it is, in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything has to wait until the last minute. we're now at the last m
extending tax cuts while doing nothing to curb spending or address the long-term deficit crisis. if they fail to pass a mini-deal, almost everyone's income taxes will go up. even if the income taxes are extended virtually all workers are due to see less in their paycheck as the temporary tax increase is set to inspire. the prospects are quote not too promising they'll get to a bipartisan agreement to prevent everyone's taxes from going up. david? >> our chief white house correspondent jon...
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theses why we're getting massive deficits today. we have never had anything like this without a major war. you can rightly wrap the knuckles of george bush, but that does not excuse president obama for what he has done. democrats and republicans share blame for what happened with the federal reserve, not calling them to read and counto account. even though i am a republican, i am for candidates who do those things. host: c-span democrat tweets in, which your flat tax treat capital gains as income? guest: my proposal would not. if you get the rate low enough, that would be a compromise i would be happy to make. that is a kind of conversation we should be having, how we get the rate as low as possible. if you get that very low rate, i will be a supporter of it. host: independence day tweets in, are you telling us you will stop investing if capital gains rate goes up to equal the ordinary income rate? guest: it is not a matter what we do in our own business, media has gone through a real convulsion. in terms of when you make an investm
theses why we're getting massive deficits today. we have never had anything like this without a major war. you can rightly wrap the knuckles of george bush, but that does not excuse president obama for what he has done. democrats and republicans share blame for what happened with the federal reserve, not calling them to read and counto account. even though i am a republican, i am for candidates who do those things. host: c-span democrat tweets in, which your flat tax treat capital gains as...
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they say they want deficit reduction. if you go over the cliff, you get deficit reduction, you just don't get it in the responsible, accountable way. it's like chopping off on arm. >> like says i want a shower, i'm going to niagra falls. >> they still can't get it done. we're dysfunctional. no other explanation. >> i think they can stop the roller coaster and make it go. they're doing a dance now because republicans don't want to do something to rates. obama wants to play hardball. but i think they'll have a different argument later in the year. >> i guess both believe it's better to go over the falls than cut a deal that's going to hurt them at home. tea party people don't respond to boehner or to cantor or mccarthy or any of them. somebody in the next tea party is going to be yelling from the back, you sold us out. i think that's why the tea party is never going to be functional. they don't really respond to getting things done. they respond to anger back home. >> i think 2014 democrats are also aware of these tax incre
they say they want deficit reduction. if you go over the cliff, you get deficit reduction, you just don't get it in the responsible, accountable way. it's like chopping off on arm. >> like says i want a shower, i'm going to niagra falls. >> they still can't get it done. we're dysfunctional. no other explanation. >> i think they can stop the roller coaster and make it go. they're doing a dance now because republicans don't want to do something to rates. obama wants to play...
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is in the white house, deficits don't matter. can you tell us a little bit about the philosophies of the two candidates? well now, the president and the ex-candidate. will the situation be that much different if there was a different man in the white house? guest: well, look, it's an interesting question. it is certainly true that tax policy was one of the key sort of issues in the last election. and actually, the debate that we're having if it sounds familiar, it's because we've had it several times before. it was really a similar debate to what we had in 2008. we had the same debate in 2010. we had a similar debate in 2011 when we were dealing with the debt ceiling issue the first time around. and we dealt it with it in the last election. and the differences have always been that president obama has maintained that tax cuts should be allowed to expire for people making more than $250,000. mitt romney called for extending all the tax cuts fully. and making other changes to the tax code. but, you know, i mean, he wouldn't be in o
is in the white house, deficits don't matter. can you tell us a little bit about the philosophies of the two candidates? well now, the president and the ex-candidate. will the situation be that much different if there was a different man in the white house? guest: well, look, it's an interesting question. it is certainly true that tax policy was one of the key sort of issues in the last election. and actually, the debate that we're having if it sounds familiar, it's because we've had it several...
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part of the budget that's driving this -- it's not a part of the spending budget that's driving the deficit and debt much that's being driven by the growth in entitlements, which are becoming particularly for a good reason, which is that the american people are living longer, therefore taking much more money out of programs like medicare than they put in, and i suppose for reasons that are not so good, which is the cost of health care continues to go up. so we proved ourselves incapable of dealing with this crisis as part of the normal process of compromise, and so we created this cliff which was intentionally made so harmful that our assumption was that we would not allow ourselves to go over the cliff. because it would be so hurtful. and, again, that's why i say no deal, in this case, is not better than a bad deal. no deal is the worst deal because it means we go over the cliff. why isual thi is all this happe? for a lot of reasons. but one is that there are groups within both great political parties who are defending the status quo, who don't want the situation as it exists now, which ha
part of the budget that's driving this -- it's not a part of the spending budget that's driving the deficit and debt much that's being driven by the growth in entitlements, which are becoming particularly for a good reason, which is that the american people are living longer, therefore taking much more money out of programs like medicare than they put in, and i suppose for reasons that are not so good, which is the cost of health care continues to go up. so we proved ourselves incapable of...
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instead, the gop wants deeper spending cuts to address the nation's deficit. the republican and democratic leaders in the senate continue to blame the other side. >> i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they are he going to do because he backed off of his own proposal. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> the senate is in session on capitol hill and house speaker banner has called lawmakers back into session sunday night at 6:30. but that only leaves just over 24 hours to come up with a deal. we want to know what you think about all of this. what do you think about congress not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff? do you think it's possible that a compromise will be reached before the deadline. we want to know. >> we are already getting some great comments from you this morning. carlos russell wrote in and said, if i don't do my job, i would get fired. same thing should be for them. i kno
instead, the gop wants deeper spending cuts to address the nation's deficit. the republican and democratic leaders in the senate continue to blame the other side. >> i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they are he going to do because he backed off of his own proposal. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >>...
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insurance is still available for 2 million people and that lays the groundwork then for additional deficit reduction in and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year. let's not miss this deadline. that is the bare minimum we should be able to get done. it shouldn't be that hard, since democrats and republicans both say they don't want to see taxes go up on middle class families. i just have to repeat, you know, outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to be a repeat pattern over and over again. ordinary folks, they do their jobs. they meet deadlines. they sit down and discuss things and things happen. if there are disagreements, they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them and it needs to stop. so, i am modestly optimistic an agreement can be achieved. nobody's going to get 100% of what they want but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy, in fact, the world economy are not adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. all right. than
insurance is still available for 2 million people and that lays the groundwork then for additional deficit reduction in and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year. let's not miss this deadline. that is the bare minimum we should be able to get done. it shouldn't be that hard, since democrats and republicans both say they don't want to see taxes go up on middle class families. i just have to repeat, you know, outside of washington, nobody understands how it is that this seems to...
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the president and house speaker john boehner had once talked of a grand bargain with $4 trillion in deficit reduction. instead the congressional budget office calculated today that extending the bush era tax cuts for 99% of americans would add $4 trillion to the deficit over the next decade. the senate measure delays mandatory pentagon and domestic spending cuts by two months. as the house convened at midday a number of republican congressmen complained the bill is still too heavy on tax hikes and too light on spending cuts. ohio's steve la tourette dismissed it as a, quote, package put together by a bunch of sleep-deprived october octogenenarians on new year's eve and the alabama representative said the house needs more time. >> the house must postpone this vote until congress and the american people have time to study and evaluate this extraordinarily complex legislation and its impact on taxes, revenue, the economy our debt and a myriad of other issues. >> woodruff: tennessee democrat steve cohen warned about the consequences of not taking the senate deal. >> my district can't afford to
the president and house speaker john boehner had once talked of a grand bargain with $4 trillion in deficit reduction. instead the congressional budget office calculated today that extending the bush era tax cuts for 99% of americans would add $4 trillion to the deficit over the next decade. the senate measure delays mandatory pentagon and domestic spending cuts by two months. as the house convened at midday a number of republican congressmen complained the bill is still too heavy on tax hikes...
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they know that we've got to make a down payment on deficit reduction. they know that we've got to protect the middle class and we've got to focus on -- let's -- what i haven't heard about in a couple of days are, our needs get back to the number one issues. creating jobs and getting this economy turned around. this is one of the first things that we have to do so we can move on aggressively towards that. >> bottom line, house republicans are meeting right now. they've just started a second meeting of the day. what do you anticipate will happen tonight? >> you know, i said earlier today, predicting what this group of republican and the house members will do is it certainly a challenge. i know that if -- from working with them as many years as i have, i know there are enough responsible republicans that there would be enough democrats and republicans that would pass that bill and send it to the president so we can prevent 98% of americans from having their tacks increased and we could get a handle on the deficit reduction problem. >> you think there's a d
they know that we've got to make a down payment on deficit reduction. they know that we've got to protect the middle class and we've got to focus on -- let's -- what i haven't heard about in a couple of days are, our needs get back to the number one issues. creating jobs and getting this economy turned around. this is one of the first things that we have to do so we can move on aggressively towards that. >> bottom line, house republicans are meeting right now. they've just started a...
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the argument here all trying to come down to deal with the long-term deficit. so any move that in effect adds to the deficit really undoes all of the work they're at. so it's an unusual night. there are pizza boxes around there are people who aren't normally here there are at least a handful of senators who are celebrating anniversaries that i've spoke to either tonight or tomorrow with spouses who are near or far. so it's an unusual atmosphere. it is still possible they say to get some kind of an immigrant on the senate side tonight. that's why they're staying late. the house has gone home. so in effect, the cliff going over is inevitable. but as you heard senator coburn mentioned, it could be retroactively dilt dealt with over the next few days. and they don't want to lose the moment they believe they now have. even vice president biden might come over if they're close to a deal. more narrow issues are still dividing them. they've maid a lot of progress. they're just not there yet. milissa? >> i'm glad you just described that to us all about the mood in the s
the argument here all trying to come down to deal with the long-term deficit. so any move that in effect adds to the deficit really undoes all of the work they're at. so it's an unusual night. there are pizza boxes around there are people who aren't normally here there are at least a handful of senators who are celebrating anniversaries that i've spoke to either tonight or tomorrow with spouses who are near or far. so it's an unusual atmosphere. it is still possible they say to get some kind of...
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last-minute process calls into question washington's ability to deal with the hard issues of tax reform and deficit reduction. >> the prospects for the economy are incredibly dim until we put in place a bigger deal, tackle these challenges, and put some certainty into the economy and boost confidence. >> reporter: meanwhile, americans watched with worry and frustration. >> i think they're all failing us a great deal and i'm so sick and tired of them fighting. >> the equivalent of worried about your mortgage after you're already homeless. so it's, like i said, sad. they have a job to do and they're not doing it. >> reporter: now, with public pressure mounting, the house and senate are expected to be back in session tomorrow, ready for a vote that could impact the economy for better or for worse. kate? >> kristen welker at the white house. nbc's moderator of "meet the press" david gregory joins me now. as we've said, david, you sat down with president obama this afternoon for an exclusive interview that airs tomorrow morning, but give us a hint. is he optimistic? do you come away with any hope that w
last-minute process calls into question washington's ability to deal with the hard issues of tax reform and deficit reduction. >> the prospects for the economy are incredibly dim until we put in place a bigger deal, tackle these challenges, and put some certainty into the economy and boost confidence. >> reporter: meanwhile, americans watched with worry and frustration. >> i think they're all failing us a great deal and i'm so sick and tired of them fighting. >> the...
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long-term consequence of leaving things the way they are in the fiscal cliff takes $7.3 trillion out of deficit over ten years, isn't that what we really have to do? it seems to me i would really be interested in investing in american equities if i knew the financial situation was under hold >> you say the ends justify the means, no matter how painful? >> it doesn't matter how painful it is and it will be a short shallow recession if we go into it. if we kick the can down the road as so many of you are saying we hope would happen. that's not what should happen for the long-term future of the country. >> you're saying, come on, folks, let's settle. it won't be that big of a deal. right? >> i do disagree with howard a little bit in that i don't think cutting $7.3 trillion, the way this deal says that we should, is the best way to -- to deal with our long-term budget issues. kind of like, you know, you know you have to lose weight so you starve yourself as opposed to some sort of pragmatic balance of, you know, diet and exercise and this deal doesn't get you to the pragmatic part. the flip side, o
long-term consequence of leaving things the way they are in the fiscal cliff takes $7.3 trillion out of deficit over ten years, isn't that what we really have to do? it seems to me i would really be interested in investing in american equities if i knew the financial situation was under hold >> you say the ends justify the means, no matter how painful? >> it doesn't matter how painful it is and it will be a short shallow recession if we go into it. if we kick the can down the road...
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not enough deficit reduction on the spending cuts in this bill. they don't like the bill. they are now saying they may take a vote on an amended bill and as i said the senate saying they are not going to take that up. >> we saw vice president biden instrumental in getting this deal done on the senate side. met with the democratic caucus on the house side this morning. can he move republicans? >> it doesn't appear so. not on the house. he met with p nancy pelosi and other democrats today. but it does not appear that the republicans in the house are going to send the bill back to the senate and doesn't appear had a vice president biden is making my headway with those gop republicans. >> all right. jennifer johnson, live on capitol hill with the latest. jennifer, thank you. could be a long night. certainly a long week already. >>> stay with news4 for the up-to-the minute on the information on the fiscal cliff. we will be monitoring lawmakers on the hill and have an update in the next half hour. of course, you can always get details on nbcwashington.com. >>> breaking news righ
not enough deficit reduction on the spending cuts in this bill. they don't like the bill. they are now saying they may take a vote on an amended bill and as i said the senate saying they are not going to take that up. >> we saw vice president biden instrumental in getting this deal done on the senate side. met with the democratic caucus on the house side this morning. can he move republicans? >> it doesn't appear so. not on the house. he met with p nancy pelosi and other democrats...
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that would cut the deficit in half. that would affect the ability to finance this larger government than he has created. so that would be consistent with his vision. then we would have a cry for tax reform act of top rates on the wealthy would be too high if you are running a small business. so they would eliminate some deductions. the tax burden overall would be about the same. and the deficit if with starts to wind down. the problem is president obama has also presided over a french- style growth rates of 2% per year. is not the worst of jamee have been been in the post world war era. -- this is not the worst jam. reagan had the economy growing at 6%. whereas mr. obama, to%. the downside has been the notion of accepting a much slower broken. longer-term, the pyramid of our society is getting more like a column, because we're having more and more older people -- people are living older and we can raise the retirement age. even with that we will have a larger elderly population to take care of. 2% growth becomes very di
that would cut the deficit in half. that would affect the ability to finance this larger government than he has created. so that would be consistent with his vision. then we would have a cry for tax reform act of top rates on the wealthy would be too high if you are running a small business. so they would eliminate some deductions. the tax burden overall would be about the same. and the deficit if with starts to wind down. the problem is president obama has also presided over a french- style...
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americans looking for a job, and lays the ground work for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> republicans say they want a deal as well, but they highlighted their biggest sticking points today in their weekly address. listen now to missouri senator roy blount. >> senate democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand. the president's proposal to raise tax on the top 2% of americans won't even pay one-third of the annual interest that's now owed on this massive $16 trillion debt. in fact, the president's tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. >> the senate is set to reconvene sunday at 1:00 eastern time. the house expected to be in session sunday. are going to start around 2:00 with the first votes coming around 6:30 p.m. let's head on over to the white house. kristen welker standing by. a lot happening in washington, d.c. a lot happening i would assume at the white house. but how engaged is the presidented to in moving this thing forward? >> reporter: good afternoon, t.j. i am told there are conversations going on at the staff leve
americans looking for a job, and lays the ground work for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> republicans say they want a deal as well, but they highlighted their biggest sticking points today in their weekly address. listen now to missouri senator roy blount. >> senate democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand. the president's proposal to raise tax on the top 2% of americans won't even pay one-third of the annual interest that's...
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instead, gop wants deeper spending cuts to address the nation's deficit and with the clock ticking, neither side is giving up ground. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. >> this is a conversation we should have had months ago and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: the president has called on lawmakers to pass a scaled-down legislation that would spare tax increases on the middle class and leave more sweeping spending cuts and tax hikes to next year. house majority leader eric canter says the house could be in session all the way up until january 2nd dealing with this issue. that is the day before the new congress is sworn in. now, today's meeting here at the white house is the first face to face meeting between the president and gop leaders since december 16th. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell has indicated that he
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unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job and lays the ground work for more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> the president is optimistic that a deal can be reached midnight on new year's eve. listen to senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. >> we had a good meeting down at the white house. engaged in discussions in the hopes we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> and the senate is set to reconvene sunday at 1:00 eastern time. the house also expected to be in session on sunday. they'll start at 2:00 eastern time with the first votes coming at 6:30. let's head up to capitol hill. mike viqueira is there. so what? even if they reach a deal today or tomorrow? do we have time to get this dup? >> i think so, t.j. if they sign off from everybody in the senate. if everybody stands up, no & nobody objects. they call it unanimous consent around here. they can wave their hansory anything. badda bing, badda boom. it's out of here. you look at senate leaders on the floor, and yo
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the republicans complained there's not enough deficit reduction. >> in the present plan, put nearly another trillion dollars of debt on the american people. >> reporter: some democrats is port the plan to prevent more financial instability. >> my district can't afford to wait few days and have the stock market go down 300 points tomorrow if we don't get together and do something. >> reporter: wall street jiters are one problem. without a deal that can go to the president. income taxes will rise for almost every american. as pat mentioned the senate apparently is done waiting if an amended bill is sent to the house to the senate mitt. senate leaders say they will not act on it. the whole fiscal cliff crisis will then be turned over to the new congress which comes to work on thursday. live on capitol hill, jennifer johnson, news4. >> thanks, jennifer. >>> well, no relief in the weather. nothing but gray skies to start out this new year. around the district these are live pictures at union station. not much in the way of rain or snow, though. >> storm team 4 chief meteorologist doug kammerer t
the republicans complained there's not enough deficit reduction. >> in the present plan, put nearly another trillion dollars of debt on the american people. >> reporter: some democrats is port the plan to prevent more financial instability. >> my district can't afford to wait few days and have the stock market go down 300 points tomorrow if we don't get together and do something. >> reporter: wall street jiters are one problem. without a deal that can go to the...
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. >> is a trojan horse disguised as deficit reduction plans. it is really an attempt to impose a radical vision on our country. it is thinly veiled social darwinism. >> hundreds of people gathered in athens, greece for the funeral of the 77-year old retired pharmacist who shot and killed himself near the greek parliament building last week after writing a note that blamed his suicide on the economic crisis. his daughter spoke at his funeral and said his act had been deeply political. >> you found it unacceptable that they were killing our freedoms and democracy and dignity. you found it unacceptable as they heartened -- tightened the hard news of the apartheid around us. the acceptable act of surrender our independence and keys to the country. it was unacceptable to you that greece did not acknowledge its children, and the children did not recognize its own country. you found the bestiality of capitalism unacceptable, that it infiltrated our lives, and know and try to stop it, and then you made your decision, to become the fear, the death, the
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we're not even aiming for the grand bargain that is necessary to reduce long-term deficits and debt. we're going to get a patch and be here again in two months. congress can't get out of its own way. we keep setting our own traps. >> john, we appreciate the clarity, even if it's depressing. thank you very much. >>> a lot of other news developing overnight. for that, let's check in, as always, with mr. ron claiborne. >> hi, dan, bianna. we begin in australia, with a confrontation with a shark. it cost a surfer two fingers and a chunk of his leg. the 29-year-old was surrounded by a pod of dolphins when the shark attacked yesterday. >> my legs. >> and witnesses say the man used his surfboard to fight off the shark. but the shark bit off two of his fingers. >>> and police in new york city are searching for a woman who pushed a man to his death in front of an oncoming subway train. police are checking homeless shelters and psychiatric units for the woman seen in this surveillance video running away from the scene of that crime. authorities released a sketch of that suspect. investigators
we're not even aiming for the grand bargain that is necessary to reduce long-term deficits and debt. we're going to get a patch and be here again in two months. congress can't get out of its own way. we keep setting our own traps. >> john, we appreciate the clarity, even if it's depressing. thank you very much. >>> a lot of other news developing overnight. for that, let's check in, as always, with mr. ron claiborne. >> hi, dan, bianna. we begin in australia, with a...
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they have all deficit versions of mental illness and personality disorders. these profiles are the same and they're all doing it. it is connected. >> it is. jonathan, the problem is, when you talk about it, you talk about violence in hollywood movies or video games, you'll have people on the left saying, you're just trying to show the nra -- then, when you go after the nra, you will have people saying, you're not looking at mental health. everybody creates a false choice. if you talk about violence on americans and somehow not talking about guns and if you talk about guns, you're not taking a strong stand on mental health and everybody avoids the issues and not getting anything done. >> everyone is using the argument as diversions from dealing with the issues at hand. none of these things have been in isolation. i'm glad you're having this conversation because one thing be gets the other. if people don't think violent video games has something to do with this or mental illness has something to do with this and growing isolation of young boys or young people h
they have all deficit versions of mental illness and personality disorders. these profiles are the same and they're all doing it. it is connected. >> it is. jonathan, the problem is, when you talk about it, you talk about violence in hollywood movies or video games, you'll have people on the left saying, you're just trying to show the nra -- then, when you go after the nra, you will have people saying, you're not looking at mental health. everybody creates a false choice. if you talk...
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we're not even aiming for the grand bargain that is necessary to reduce long-term deficits and debt. we weren't that far from a deal two weeks ago. but we are today. we're going to get a patch and be here again in two months. congress can't get out of its own way. we keep setting our own traps. and we can't find a way to reason together. >> john, we appreciate the clarity, even if it's depressing. thank you very much. john avlon. >>> a lot of other news developing overnight. for that, let's check in, as always, with mr. ron claiborne. good morning, sir. >> hi, dan, bianna. mr. avalon, good morning, everyone. we begin in australia, with a confrontation with a shark. it cost a surfer two fingers and a chunk of his leg. the 29-year-old was surrounded by a pod of dolphins when the shark attacked yesterday. >> are you all right? >> yeah, i got my legs. i'm good. >> and witnesses say the man used his surfboard to fight off the shark. but the shark bit off two of his fingers. and sank its teeth into his legs. other surfers came to the man's aid until paramedics arrived. >>> and police in ne
we're not even aiming for the grand bargain that is necessary to reduce long-term deficits and debt. we weren't that far from a deal two weeks ago. but we are today. we're going to get a patch and be here again in two months. congress can't get out of its own way. we keep setting our own traps. and we can't find a way to reason together. >> john, we appreciate the clarity, even if it's depressing. thank you very much. john avlon. >>> a lot of other news developing overnight. for...